QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:21): The answer is that this is not a dinner party conversation. This is a policy effort to engage seriously with these questions of supply. Every moment that the government advances a position, the 'no-alition' here, the Greens political party and the Liberal and National parties have got one answer, and that is no.

The truth is that there is no perfect answer. That is why there is a suite of measures. That is why there is— The PRESIDENT: Minister Ayres, please resume your seat.

Senator Pocock? Senator Barbara Pocock: On relevance, my question is about when the government will address the tax breaks that are flowing to wealthy property investors. I haven't heard a word about it.

The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, your question also had an ambit about homeownership and historical data and so on, and the minister is being relevant to your question. Senator AYRES: That's what I meant when I said 'dinner party conversation'—not a serious effort to deal with supply. I know you don't like young Australian people having the opportunity to buy a home for the first time in their lives.

I know you want to campaign against it. You love social housing, except when it's being built in your suburb. That is the Greens party's position.

If you want to keep on with it, keep on with it. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, second supplementary?