QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for Finance, Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Women, Minister for Government Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:39): I don't accept a lot of what was in that question at all, and it was factually incorrect. The highest spending government was the Howard government—not to be outdone by the COVID spending that occurred.

Let's be honest here. In relation to government spending, we have found $114 billion worth of savings. When you sat in the cabinet room, Senator McKenzie, I don't think you found 20c, to be honest.

Senator McKenzie: Proportionate to the economy. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie! Senator GALLAGHER: I don't think you found a cent that went into savings.

You spent a lot. The Nats spent a lot. I can see ministers, and, yes, they're nodding.

Liberal ministers are nodding because they know what the story was. There were buckets of cash that went out to the regions without any detail. You didn't find a cent.

We've found $114 billion, and there is more work to do. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, second supplementary?