QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme) (14:40): This Senate has had a number of conversations about whether or not it is appropriate to add those two numbers and whether that makes sense. You know, Senator Pocock, that that methodology is not one that the government accepts. Nonetheless, your question goes to the budget.

Labor will deliver an additional 32,000 Support at Home places in 2026-27. As I outlined in the budget papers, once we've rolled out these additional places, more than 420,000 older Australians will have access to a Support at Home place. That is almost three times as many older Australians compared to those who had a home-care package back in 2020 when those opposite were responsible.

Senator Ruston: That's not true either. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, perhaps you can have your own question. Senator Ruston: It's so not true.

The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, I'm addressing you. Perhaps you can have your own question rather than interjecting so rudely from the sidelines. Senator Pocock, second supplementary?