QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for Finance, Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Women, Minister for Government Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:49): I know that One Nation and those parties on the right would like to blame every challenge to this country on migrants. We don't. On this side, we don't take that view.

The productivity challenge is real. It's real in our economy. It's real in many, many economies around the world.

The measures needed to improve productivity involve governments tackling serious challenges that have been ignored for too long, like—and I know you disagree with this, Senator Roberts—the transition to net zero. I know you don't like it, but energy is a big part of seizing the— The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts? Senator Roberts: I don't want to know about the globe.

This is a point of order on relevance. The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, why are you on your feet? Senator Roberts: A point of order on relevance.

The PRESIDENT: Thank you. The minister is being relevant to your question, and I'll continue to listen carefully. Senator GALLAGHER: Migrants have made a very significant investment into our economy and have brought additional benefits.

We value them and the contribution they make. We're dealing with the migration challenges. The net overseas migration has come down 45 per cent, and we've got a range of productivity measures in place.

(Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, second supplementary?