QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:49): Obstacles? Oh, let me tell you about those obstacles, Senator Cox. It was good to see the shadow minister for Indigenous Australians, Julian Leeser, attend Garma this year.

In his speech, he described our 6,000 jobs— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: Oh, they're awake! In his speech, he described the 6,000 jobs in remote communities as 'not ambitious enough'. 'We must do better than that,' he said. Well, let me go back to the coalition's record.

You promised 1,000 jobs. How many did you deliver? Senator Bragg: After he buggered it up.

The PRESIDENT: Senator Bragg! Senator Bragg: Well, he did! Senator McCARTHY: Oh, let me remember.

Let me think. A government senator: Zero! Senator McCARTHY: No, they went a bit higher than that.

It was around 300— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. I'm sorry. Senator Bragg, it is not your role in here in question time to (1) answer me back and (2) try and out-loud the minister.

I'd ask you to listen in respectful silence. Minister, please continue. Senator McCARTHY: Thank you, President.

I can be pretty loud when I feel like it too. It's okay, Senator Bragg. We can have it out inside the building or outside the building.

You guys delivered 350; you said you'd deliver 1,000. You couldn't do it. You say 6,000 is too ambitious.

Well, let's show your numbers.