Interactive Gambling Amendment (Gambling Reform) Bill 2026, National Self-exclusion Register (Cost Recovery Levy) Amendment Bill 2026, Interactive Gambling (Cost Recovery Levy) Bill 2026

Senator DAVID POCOCK (Australian Capital Territory—Independent ACT Whip) (18:32): Minister, it's concerning to hear that the ACMA is going to be the one enforcing this. I don't know if you were aware, but Entain broke BetStop rules 500 times, and ACMA took so long to investigate it that they couldn't levy a fine. Then they decided not to take it to court because, I don't know, it was too hard or something.

So there are some serious concerns there. But I want to drill into some of the detail of your bill. It allows three ads per hour on television between 5 am and 8.30 pm.

What evidence does the government hold that three gambling ads per hour until 8.30 pm including during PG programming—shows like Lego Masters—won't continue to normalise gambling among children?