QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE

Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (15:52): I think I've outlined the sum of our effort in terms of home construction. But Senator Ruston interjects to say, 'What does "decent" mean?' Decent means standards in housing that mean that we have swimming pool safety and barriers; standards around stairs, balustrades and fall prevention; drinking water safety; sanitary plumbing and sewerage; wastewater disposal; ventilation; smoke alarms and emergency exits; bushfire, flood and cyclone prone standards—standards that go to the decency of housing— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Ayres, resume your seat.

Senator Ruston, I called you during that first supplementary and you completely ignored me, once again showing disrespect to me as the President. I invite you to listen quietly or leave the chamber. Senator AYRES: We have seen around the world, including in the United Kingdom, in the Grenfell housing disaster, what it means when you cut housing standards and think it's okay to put ordinary people, working people, into substandard housing, as Senator Bragg suggested just a few days ago.

(Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Tyrrell, second supplementary?